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Photo Albumthe Clean Energy MythMar 30, '08 10:41 PM
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Fellas,

Have you read the newest edition of TIME magz today? (ed Apr 07, 2008) Look at the numbers of the renewable energy as stated inside it and provided below. This is one of the hottest issue discussed and debated in our Sampoerna-ITB class 2007 of Energy. As a matter of fact, it is incorporated into our curriculum, and even the business or at least development is currently performed by some of our fellow classmate and faculty.

Now, given out the report of TIME magz, is there something more out there we should find out?


the Numbers

365
Days one person could be fed on the corn needed to fill an ethanol-fueled SUV

USD 100 billion
Estimated size of 2010 biofuel market

300,000
Hectares of Brazillian rain forest lost in the last six month of 2007. Or nearly as big as the Greater Jakarta area.



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csakura wrote on Mar 30
wah belom beli!
geewaq wrote on Mar 31
hmm.. jadi walaupun 'clean' energy, tapi tetap aja mengorbankan ekosistem ya ?
terbanglahlbhtinggi wrote on Mar 31
csakura said
wah belom beli!
Hayooo buruan.. Atau mending langganan aja kaya gue. Enak kan? Lebih praktis & ndak ribet :-)
terbanglahlbhtinggi wrote on Mar 31
geewaq said
hmm.. jadi walaupun 'clean' energy, tapi tetap aja mengorbankan ekosistem ya ?
Belum sempat baca majalah nya (dan opini redaksi TIME soal ini); seharian meeting melulu. Maklum, saya digaji emang cuma utk meeting, heuhehe.. Kalau mnrt elo sendiri gimana?
csakura wrote on Mar 31
Hayooo buruan.. Atau mending langganan aja kaya gue. Enak kan? Lebih praktis & ndak ribet :-)
hahah abisnyague beli kalo pas topiknya menarik di gue aja sih. sama kalau ilustrasi cover-nya keren hehehe
merlyna wrote on Mar 31
i haven't read Time's article, but based on my knowledge there are some problems with clean fuel, for example... ethanol is not the answer ---> renewable in general sounds good but it really turns out bio-ful can make global warming worse, because if for every area where we grow plant (corn) for ethanol instead of for food, then there're more areas needed to grow for food somewhere else, thus then deforestation would happen and in turn, the world produce more carbon.
merlyna wrote on Mar 31
additional note:
in essence, there's no such thing as 'renewable energy' (call it clean fuel, biofuel, solar power, etc, etc). back to the basic physics: energy cannot be produced, generated, recycled, it can only be converted -- but then when every time we perform conversion there's entropy -- a loss of useful/available energy. if we continue to increase energy consumption (even if we use the so-called renewable sources), we will continue to increase the entropy -- contribute to global warming. because there's only limited sources of energy in this planet, instead of exchanging regular energy with clean energy, best is just reduce our energy consumption....
terbanglahlbhtinggi wrote on Mar 31
merlyna said
renewable in general sounds good but it really turns out bio-ful can make global warming worse, because if for every area where we grow plant (corn) for ethanol instead of for food, then there're more areas needed to grow for food somewhere else, thus then deforestation would happen and in turn, the world produce more carbon.
A simple yet very good explanation; really make sense in the very basic ideas, instead. It opened up my eyes, really.
terbanglahlbhtinggi wrote on Mar 31
merlyna said
energy cannot be produced, generated, recycled, it can only be converted
Indeed. Yeah, this is another thing that we should put in mind. Esp when ones talk about "renewables energy".

Btw have you realized that the group of company where I work lately been choosen as the leader of such effort? One of my classmate who recently moved to a Malaysia's oil comp is sitting on one of the chair there. Thus, you see, this should be a "hot" issue; not just for the company where I work, but also for our class as well.
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